Kesuvos Daf 42 - Knas After Gmar Din

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Series: Daf Yomi

Venue: Beis Haknesses of North Woodmere Beis Haknesses of North Woodmere

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Collections: Rabbi Lebowitz: Daf Yomi Kesubos

References: Ketuvot: 42a Ketuvot: 42b  

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    1. Title: splitting reisha and seifa
      Author: Larry Eisenberg

      In the mishna on 41B there was an issue with the reisha not being consistent with R Shimon, yet R Shimon only being cited as arguing on the seifa. One answer given is that originally the two halves may not have been taught together, with R Yehuda later compiling them into one mishna, so R Shimon didn't see the reisha to argue against it. Following this logic, why don't we use the same answer whenever the Gemara is stuck trying to figure out the author of a mishna given that often a Tanna's opinion will only work with half of the mishna. Let us just say that the two halves were not originally together, and so could be the work of two different Tannaim.

    2. Title: splitting reisha and seifa
      Author: Larry Eisenberg

      In the mishna on 41B there was an issue with the reisha not being consistent with R Shimon, yet R Shimon only being cited as arguing on the seifa. One answer given is that originally the two halves may not have been taught together, with R Yehuda later compiling them into one mishna, so R Shimon didn't see the reisha to argue against it. Following this logic, why don't we use the same answer whenever the Gemara is stuck trying to figure out the author of a mishna given that often a Tanna's opinion will only work with half of the mishna. Let us just say that the two halves were not originally together, and so could be the work of two different Tannaim.